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Following on from the previous article about Desmond Tutu, posted earlier today, here is a translated article reblogged with kind permission from the excellent blog For the Love of His Truth in South Africa.

Former Archbishop Desmond Tutu prefers Hell to the God of the Bible

 

Tutu UN

 

Tutu said more than”I MUCH RATHER PREFER TO GO TO HELL THAN A ‘HOMOPHOBIC HEAVEN”

 

He also said what is more concerning :  “Not all in the Bible is true” 

 

The following exerpt was translated by Grant Swart.  The original report by Neels Jackson appeared in our local Afrikaans News Paper, Beeld.

 

Not all in the Bible is true ? 

 

Cape Town  – Simply because something is written in the Bible, does not mean that it is necessarily true.

 

Yesterday, this was how Archbishop Desmond Tutu referred to sections of the Bible written by the Apostle Paul, which address homosexuality.

 

He was speaking at the launch of the United Nations campaign toward equality for gay, lesbian, bi-sexual and transgender human rights (GLBT), where he also stated that he felt just as strongly about these rights as he did about apartheid, and that he fully supported the campaign.

 

He appealed to religious leaders to become involved and said that it concerned human rights.

 

He said that people often quote the Apostle Paul and, however, that Paul had said many things, such as that women should remain quiet and that everyone should get married. “Just because something is written in the Bible, it is not necessarily true.” He further stated that Bible texts were a great source of torment for many people. He said that he could feel their terrible torment.

 

Twice he made referral to the same point, “I would refuse to go to a homophobic heaven. No, I would say sorry, I mean I would much rather go to the other place.” Later, “I would not worship a God who is homophobic and that is how deeply I feel about this,” he said, condemning the use of religious justification for anti-gay prejudice.

 

It is the first time that the UN has started a campaign such as this. The campaign is known as “Free and Equal”.

 

Also at the campaign with Tutu were Judge Edwin Cameron and the UN high commissioner for human rights, Navi Pillay.

 

 Below Screen shot taken from Beeld an Afrikaans newspaper in South Africa written by Neels Jackson:

 

Tutu

 

Read full Afrikaans article Link Here : http://www.beeld.com/nuus/2013-07-27-nie-alles-in-die-bybel-is-waar-tutu

Former Archbishop Desmond Tutu prefers Hell to the God of the Bible

 

Tutu UN

 

Tutu said more than”I MUCH RATHER PREFER TO GO TO HELL THAN A ‘HOMOPHOBIC HEAVEN”

 

He also said what is more concerning :  “Not all in the Bible is true” 

 

The following exerpt was translated by Grant Swart.  The original report by Neels Jackson appeared in our local Afrikaans News Paper, Beeld.

 

Not all in the Bible is true ? 

 

Cape Town  – Simply because something is written in the Bible, does not mean that it is necessarily true.

 

Yesterday, this was how Archbishop Desmond Tutu referred to sections of the Bible written by the Apostle Paul, which address homosexuality.

 

He was speaking at the launch of the United Nations campaign toward equality for gay, lesbian, bi-sexual and transgender human rights (GLBT), where he also stated that he felt just as strongly about these rights as he did about apartheid, and that he fully supported the campaign.

 

He appealed to religious leaders to become involved and said that it concerned human rights.

 

He said that people often quote the Apostle Paul and, however, that Paul had said many things, such as that women should remain quiet and that everyone should get married. “Just because something is written in the Bible, it is not necessarily true.” He further stated that Bible texts were a great source of torment for many people. He said that he could feel their terrible torment.

 

Twice he made referral to the same point, “I would refuse to go to a homophobic heaven. No, I would say sorry, I mean I would much rather go to the other place.” Later, “I would not worship a God who is homophobic and that is how deeply I feel about this,” he said, condemning the use of religious justification for anti-gay prejudice.

 

It is the first time that the UN has started a campaign such as this. The campaign is known as “Free and Equal”.

 

Also at the campaign with Tutu were Judge Edwin Cameron and the UN high commissioner for human rights, Navi Pillay.

 

 Below Screen shot taken from Beeld an Afrikaans newspaper in South Africa written by Neels Jackson:

 

Tutu

 

Read full Afrikaans article Link Here : http://www.beeld.com/nuus/2013-07-27-nie-alles-in-die-bybel-is-waar-tutu

(I have not resprinted the segment from Stand Up For the Truth here, as I have already posted it separately).

 

Further more see below on what else Desmond Tutu had to say around 2006.

 

Tutu says God is not a Christian

 

Tutu : “God is not a Christian”

 

By Parker T. Williamson / Posted on 3/8/2006

 

The Rev. Desmond Tutu, archbishop and primate of Southern Africa, has weighed in with World Council of Churches leaders who seek to have the council transcend Christian boundaries. “After all,” said Tutu, “God is not a Christian.”

 

According to Tutu, this act of Jesus Christ set in motion a unity that knows no boundaries. In fact, although Christ is the one who initiates this unity, allegiance to Christ is apparently not a necessary prerequisite for entering into this unity. “Jesus, it appears, was quite serious when he said that God was our father and that we belonged all to one family, because in this family all, not some, are insiders. None is an outsider – black and white, yellow and red, rich and poor, educated and not educated, beautiful and not so beautiful, Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, atheist, all belong, all are held in a divine embrace that will not let us go – all, for God has no enemies.”

 

The key toward re-establishing that primordial unity that God intends for all his creation is the unity of the church, Tutu said. Suggesting that the unity of the human family is dependent on the unity of the church, and the unity of the church is, in large degree, dependent on the unity of the World Council of Churches, Tutu said, “A united church is no optional extra. A united church is indispensable for the salvation of God’s world.”

 

In a press conference that followed his address, Tutu emphasized his key point: “We believe in one family, and in our quest for this one family, the WCC is crucial.” Tutu congratulated the WCC for being “one of the foremost forums for interfaith dialogues, an activity that must be taken even more seriously today.”

 

A reporter asked Tutu if there are any limits to plurality and diversity when seeking unity. “God is the God of all,” replied Tutu. “We are too prone to excommunicate. God welcomes all of us . Today we Christians have moved a long way toward understanding that we don’t have a corner on the God market.

 

Inter-religious dialogue is high on the priority list for this 9th General Assembly of the WCC. During his opening remarks, Aram I, moderator of the WCC, urged delegates to think beyond the walls of the church and consider the possibility of “the hidden Christ” in other religious traditions. The moderator’s suggestion was seconded by Rowan Williams, archbishop of Canterbury, who urged the WCC to find new models through which Christians could see in the eyes of non-Christians “a reflection of what we see,” even if they do not identify that vision in Christian terms.

 

Throughout the assembly meeting, non-Christian spiritualists and those who practice “indigenous peoples” traditions have been provided seminar space and “ecumenical conversation” opportunities, in order for delegates to learn how they communicate with the spirit world and to engage them in inter-faith dialogues.

 

HL : http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1592144/p