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My response from the original post and a further comment are at the end of this post:



Warren Tweet

Today we are seeing the mystical type of contemplative practices that date back to the eastern practices of Buddhists and Hindus, including a type of mantra-style breath prayer that many say can bring us to a higher consciousness to experience God.

Rick Warren, as evidenced by his Tweet today about this practice, is a proponent and teacher of breath-prayers to reach this level of consciousness.

Brother lawrenceThe contemplative practice of “practicing the presence” of God dates back to the late 1600s, when Catholic monk Brother Lawrence wrote the book, “The Practice of the Presence of God. Rick Warren was greatly influenced by Brother Lawrence and wrote about him in his book, The Purpose Driven Life, in which he shares six secrets to become God’s friends. One of those is “practicing God’s presence” by being in “constant conversation” with Him.

After quoting 1 Thessalonians 5:17 (“pray without ceasing”), Warren asks how a Christian can practice unceasing prayer to which he answers, “One way is to use ‘breath prayers’ throughout the day, as many Christians have done for centuries. You choose a brief sentence or a simple phrase that can be repeated in one breath.” Then after providing ten examples of prayers, short biblical phrases that could work as breath prayers, Warren advises “Pray it as often as possible so it is rooted deep in your heart.” In this context Warren also cites the book of Catholic Monk Brother Lawrence (c.1605-1691), The Practice of the Presence of God, who advocated experiencing the presence of God in the most menial of circumstances, by praying short conversational prayers throughout the day. The Roman Catholic practice of praying the rosary is also akin to breath prayers.

Contemplative Youth MinistryThe popular practice is now encouraged in youth groups in the seeker-emergent churches around the nation and the world.

Other Evangelicals who use breath prayers to practice the presence:

Richard Foster teaches that we can bring Jesus into our presence by the use of the imagination:
“You can actually encounter the living Christ in the event, be addressed by his voice and be touched by his healing power. It can be more than an exercise of the imagination; it can be a genuine confrontation., Jesus Christ will actually come to you.”

Nancy Ortberg: “I started slowly to turn my worries into ‘breath prayers to help practice the presence of God.

Beth Moore, in her book, When Godly People Do Ungodly Things states: “I have picked up on the terminology of Brother Lawrence, who called praying unceasingly practicing God’s presence. In fact, practicing God’s presence has been my number one goal for the last year.”


Seriously, this is making my brain (and my heart) hurt. Pardon my rant ahead of reading it but…have people lost their minds completely? How does one ‘practice the presence’ of the Almighty God, who dwells in unapproachable light, is holy and pure, omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent? Does he come at our command? Is he a force we can call forth? NO!

What about Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour, the only begotten son of our heavenly Father, seated at his right hand? Is he a spirit or force we can summon through these divinations? Will he appear to us in accordance with our will? NO!

Ok, well what about God the Holy Spirit, our Wonderful Counsellor, sent forth from the Father and the Son, the third person of the Holy Trinity? Will he come at our beck and call, if we just use the right incantation or breath pattern. NO, NO and NO.

Believers enjoy the presence and blessings of our dear Lord Jesus without any of this blasphemy. We know God through his Word, in the revelation of his glorious Son, and by the presence of his Holy Spirit indwelling in us. His grace is sufficient for us!

Wait, I just reread this post…did Beth Moore (sorry, I am an Aussie and don’t know much about her) seriously write a book called ‘When Godly People do Ungodly Things’ and then proceed to tell us in this so-named book about the ungodly things she does and in fact makes her priority? Wow, stop this merry-go-round…I want to get off!


Let me ask you a simple question. Does it make any sense at all that the way to a better relationship with the infinite, all-knowing, all-powerful creator of the universe is through the repetition of a word or phrase, and the use of a particular breath? Remember, it is the Lord who said “Come now, let us reason together” (Isaiah 1: 18-20) and gave us a model for prayer in Matthew 6: 9-13. Notice the difference? Then read verse 7.

This ‘practice’ is huge in the charismanic New Apostolic Reformation movement, and is spreading like wildfire into all denominations. Participants are encouraged to ‘soak’ in God’s presence (seriously called ‘soaking prayer’).  It encourages the worship of a false God. A false God that cannot save. As I am rather fond of saying these days…find it in the Bible folks, and you have my attention. Oh, look at that. It isn’t there. What is there are endless warnings in the Old AND New Testaments about mixing pagan worship practices with our own worship of the one true God.